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The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III has been one of my favorite barefoot shoes for lifting over the last couple of years. Outside of the Primus Lite III, I’ve also thoroughly enjoyed the Tolos Archetype 1.0’s performance.
A question I get asked fairly often on my YouTube channel and That Fit Friend is, “Which is better for lifting between the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III versus the Tolos Archetype 1.0?”
The Tolos model is newer to the market so it makes total sense as to why so many have asked about their overall performance, as they have a lot to prove. For the record, I rank these barefoot shoes super highly in my round-up for different reasons.
Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Performance
I’ll cover how these shoes perform in different contexts to fully explain and paint a picture of the performance differences between the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III.
More specifically, I’ll discuss their performance for lifting, versatile training, short runs, and daily wear. This way, you can choose the best shoe for your specific needs.
Testing the Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III for Lifting
When it comes to lifting, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III both perform really well. Both of these models give you a nice level of stability and traction for different lifting contexts.
I’ve deadlifted over 500 lbs in both of these shoes and have enjoyed their overall grip and width giving my toes enough room to splay and grip the floor. I also enjoy how both of these shoes have relatively low stack heights to get you close to the ground.
For lower body exercises and squats, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III have also been great for traction reasons and come with a nice level of articulation, as in, they both move well with the feet when doing accessories like lunges and split squats.
The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III features a removable insole with a flatter sole tread, so it can get you a little closer to the ground than the Tolos Archetype 1.0 since the Tolos shoe doesn’t have an insole and a thicker tread, but this shouldn’t be a huge deal for most.
Another difference worth noting is that the Tolos Archetype 1.0’s bootie-style construction gives you a nice level of security. I like that I can wear this shoe with the laces untied or tied and never have to stress about them coming off while lifting.
I think if you’re similar in the sense that you don’t always like messing with laces, then the Tolos Archetype 1.0 can be a great option to explore. Plus, I’ve found that the older Primus Lite III’s laces can come untied at times and their new thick laces run a little long.
Outside of this, another difference worth noting between these models is that the Primus Lite III does have a little more breathability compared to the Tolos Archetype 1.0, however, it’s a pretty small difference especially if you prefer going barefoot in your shoes.
Winner: Tie. Both shoes are awesome for powerlifting, general strength training, and different types of lifting. I’d go Tolos if you want to spend less and like bootie-style shoes, and I’d go Vivobarefoot if you really prioritize breathability.
Tolos Archetype 1.0
Primus Lite III
Testing the Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III for Versatile Training
In the context of versatile training, including sessions where you’re doing HIIT, athletic-style training, and class-style exercises, I’ve enjoyed the performance of the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III and Tolos Archetype 1.0.
Both of these have a high degree of flexibility, which is awesome for plyometrics and single-leg work, and their grip is pretty solid for the most part. On turf, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 will give you a little more traction than the Primus Lite III.
Another perk of both of these shoes for versatile training is that they have an athletic fit to them. Their low-profile constructions give them sock-like fits which can be great for speed-focused sessions where you want something minimal on the feet.
One small difference to note between these shoes for versatile training is that the Primus Lite III does come with a removable which can be nice for giving barefoot shoe beginners a little more cushion when just starting out.
Outside of this difference, though, I don’t think you can really go wrong with either of these shoes for versatile workouts. They both feel lightweight and nimble, and their breathability is good enough for most contexts with the Primus Lite III taking the slight edge there.
Winner: Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III. However, this versatility section much like my lifting section is really close regarding which model is better. Both of these shoes work exceptionally well and the Primus takes the edge here due to its insole and breathability.
Testing the Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III for Short Runs and Daily Wear
For short runs, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III will give you similar levels of performance. I’ve used both of these shoes for sprints and runs under two miles in length and I’ve enjoyed their performance.
Both of these shoes feel good on the feet and I like how secure they feel when doing faster-paced runs. Note, I do think the Tolos tread can last a little longer on concrete if that’s where you’re primarily running.
In my opinion, if you want a barefoot shoe for running-specific workouts, then you may want to find something a little more dialed in. These shoes work, but they’re not necessarily optimized for running. I’d go for something like a Geo Racer Knit or Xero Shoes Zelen if you need a shoe for more running.
For daily wear, I really enjoy both of these shoes. I find the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Primus Lite III to have simplistic and clean constructions so they’re great shoes for doubling as daily wear and training-focused models.
If I had to give the edge here to one of the shoes, though, I’d take the Tolos Archetype 1.0 due to its bootie-style construction, clean appearance, deeper tread, and better price point.
Winner: For running, both of these shoes work well. For daily wear, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 is taking the win due to it having a better price point and outperforming the Primus Lite III in this context.
Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Construction
To cover and compare the construction differences between the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III and Tolos Archetype 1.0, I’ll break this section into different parts.
If you can understand how each shoe differs regarding its individual construction, then you can make the best choice for your footwear preferences and needs.
Sole
The Tolos Archetype 1.0 features a full rubber sole that has a wavy-tread patterning that offers more depth than the Primus Lite III’s tread. The stack height of the Tolos Archetype 1.0 is minimalist and its sole has a high level of flexibility.
The Primus Lite III features Vivobarefoot’s signature Active Sole construction which has a smooth hexagon tread patterning. This model’s sole’s stack height sits at 4mm and it has a good level of flexibility.
Upper
The Tolos Archetype 1.0 features a mesh upper construction with synthetic overlays over the toe box and heel. The Archetype 1.0 is built with a bootie-style construction and it has two external loops on the tongue and heel.
The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III is built with breathable mesh and synthetic materials. This model’s forefoot and midfoot feature a breathable construction and the toe box and midfoot have synthetic overlays giving them more structure.
Lacing System
The Tolos Archetype 1.0 features five core eyelets, and once again, this shoe has a bootie-style construction. I personally like this because you can wear the Tolos model tied or untied and expect to get a nice level of security.
The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III is built with four core eyelets with a fifth eyelet for lace-locking. This shoe features a lightweight mesh tongue that has an additional loop for security purposes.
Weight, Heel-to-Toe Drop, and Insole
The Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III both feature similar weights and heel-to-toe drops. One major difference between these shoes, though, is that the Primus Lite III comes with a removable insole and the Archetype 1.0 does not.
- Tolos Archetype 1.0 Weight and Heel-to-Toe Drop: 7.85 (for my size 10 model), 0mm Heel-to-Toe Drop
- Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Weight and Heel-to-Toe Drop: 8.85 (for my size 10 model), 0mm Heel-to-Toe Drop
If you have additional construction-related questions about the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Primus Lite III, drop a comment below.
Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Durability
When it comes to the durability of the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III and Tolos Archetype 1.0, I think most can expect these shoes to last quite a while, depending on how you’re using them.
For example, if you’re rotating in both of these shoes with other models and you’re primarily using them for working out and daily wear, then they should both last you a minimum of 8-12 months.
With both of these shoes, if you run into durability issues, it’s typically not around the upper or lacing system, but more so the sole of each shoe. Even then, both companies are good at honoring manufacturers’ defects.
To expand on the sole durability of each shoe, the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III’s tread can fade after six months of high-volume use if you wear them every day on concrete and surfaces with higher friction.
Similarly, the Tolos Archetype 1.0’s tread can also fade with a lot of high-volume use. If the Tolos is your everyday shoe and you’re not rotating it in, you’ll typically see the forefoot’s tread start to deplete after about six months.
Overall, though, both of these shoes do have pretty adequate durabilities, but there’s a case to be made for the Tolos somewhat beating out the Vivobarefoot due to it lasting a similar amount of time for a lower price point.
If you have additional durability-related questions about the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, drop a comment below. Also, feel free to share your experiences with each shoe’s durability below.
Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Sizing
When it comes to sizing the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, most should be safe going true to size with these models, however, there are a few things to consider.
With the Tolos Archetype 1.0, most should be safe opting for their normal size in this model. A perk of Tolos is that they offer half-sizes which is something Vivobarefoot does not.
One exception to Tolos and their sizing is for thicker feet. This shoe does have a lower upper volume and bootie-style construction, so if you typically find that you’re limiting in your shoe’s midfoot, then you may want to opt for the next iteration of the Archetype 1.0.
In the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, if you’re not in-between sizes, then you should be safe opting for your normal shoe size. For half-sizes, you’ll generally want to go down versus go up.
The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III can run a little long at times, so if you typically find that you have room at the end of your toe box, then sizing down should be a safe call. Conversely, if you’re pushing the limits in your half-size, then you’ll want to size up.
- Tolos Archetype 1.0: True to size for most.
- Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III: True to size for most. Half sizes should typically size down.
If you have additional sizing questions about the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, drop a comment below.
Tolos Archetype 1.0 Vs Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III Price
When it comes to the price differences between the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, there’s a fairly big discrepancy between the two shoes.
For the Tolos Archetype 1.0, you can expect to pay $115 USD, and with the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, you can expect a price point of around $160 USD.
I do think both of these shoes are worth it for their price points if you’re investing in them for working out and casual wear. They’re some of the few barefoot shoes that can play really well in both of these contexts.
That being said, I’d highly suggest searching for coupons or using the small discounts That Fit Friend gets for both of these models if you do plan to invest in them (JBOLY for Vivobarefoot).
You could also try searching around to see if you can find steeper discounts than 10% as well. Conversely, if you don’t want to pay over $100 USD for a pair of barefoot shoes, then I’d suggest looking into the Merrell Vapor Glove 6 or Xero Shoes Prio.
Tolos Archetype 1.0
Primus Lite III
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Q:Are the Tolos Archetype 1.0 good for versatile training?
Q:Are the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III good for running?
Takeaway Thoughts
Of all the barefoot shoes on the market, the Tolos Archetype 1.0 and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III are both among of my favorites. These models perform well in the gym and have a clean aesthetic to them for casual use.
The Tolos Archetype 1.0 has a slightly lower price point than the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III, however, it is a newer model in its infancy stage, so it will only improve as time goes on.
The Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III is consistent, but it does have a pretty high price point and the lack of half-sizes can be frustrating when it comes to finding the best size for you.
If you have additional questions about the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite III versus the Tolos Archetype 1.0, drop a comment below or reach out to me personally via Instagram (@jake_boly or @that_fit_friend).
Matt D
Hey Jake,
I appreciate all the time you put into testing these models for our benefit!
I’ve been loving the Tolos Archetype, especially the ground feel and I’m interested in adding a pair of Primus Lite IIIs to the rotation for training and daily wear.
A couple of questions I had that I’m curious if you can answer:
1. Would you say the ground feel is similar between the Archetype and Primus when the Primus Lite insole is removed or with it still in the shoe? I think I saw that the stack height for the Primus Lite was 5mm, but couldn’t tell if this was with or without the insole
2. Does the Primus Lite without the insole feel significantly roomier than the Tolos Archetype in the same size? I ask this because the Archetype in size 12 is about as perfect as it gets for me in volume/length/etc
Thanks!
Matt
Hey Matt!
1. Yeah, overall, I think it’s super similar and most won’t feel a difference. You may “feel” a little more in the Primus but that has more to do with how it slaps the ground, IMO, compared to the Tolos.
2. Yeah, I’d say so! It’s not crazzzzzyyyy but def more spacious than the Tolos.
Matt D
Jake – thank you for taking the time to reply!
Just got the primus lite in and I already know they’ll be a great addition.
Thanks again,
Matt
Heck yeah, love to hear that!